darjohn (ENOC – marcus curtis late last night !!!): OOM 7/30/11 ON ANOTHER SITE

darjohn (ENOC – marcus curtis late last night !!!): OOM 7/30/11 ON ANOTHER SITE


10:43 PM [mrrich] Enoch8 what’s your take on the Debt Ceiling issue and the
dinar?

10:43 PM [Enoch8] Mr R……. I really liked what Marcus
said.

10:44 PM [mrrich] yeah, Marcus is amazing
10:44 PM [Enoch8]
There will be some sure signs as to whether they plan to make the petro dollar
strong or crash it, by what rate the IQD comes out….. IMO
10:45 PM [Enoch8]
My bet is they try to make it look like they saved the economy…… but it is
worse than the Peyton Place saga….
10:45 PM [pvS] high
theeeeeeater
10:45 PM [Enoch8] We all know they are gonna raise the
ceiling.
10:45 PM [vested] yep
10:46 PM [mrrich] yeah, we can’t
default
10:46 PM [mrrich] I mean technically we can, but in reality we
can’t
10:46 PM [Enoch8] If they did default…. it will be to dismantle and
reboot the Fed Reserve to another form of an American Central Bank.
10:47 PM
[Enoch8] And we know 2 things……
10:47 PM [Enoch8] The Charter ends in
2013 and so does the 40 year contract with OPEC on the Petro Dollar
10:48 PM
[jimpickles] Enoch8 wow..thats a twist
10:48 PM [Enoch8] If that is the
plan…… it is to intentionally go off the petro dollar….. then watch it go
over the $200 per barrel before we also default the OPEC agreement of 1973 and
open up US Oil Fields.
User kdes dinar [174.46.116.2] has logged in.
10:49
PM [Enoch8] If that is the case….. one might think about this….
10:49 PM
[kdes dinar] lets play guess that cough number. Ready …
10:50 PM [Enoch8]
The PTB (powers that be) cabals will double dip on a US Devaluation and then
revalue to a new Lawful US Treasury
10:50 PM [Enoch8] Think about that as a
possibility in the future.

10:51 PM [Enoch8] Plutiods!
10:51 PM
[saoirse] mrrich
10:51 PM [jimpickles] LOL
10:51 PM [Enoch8] Maybe they
are riding in on planet x
10:51 PM [mrrich] plutocrats
10:52 PM [kdes
dinar] guys – its politics – welcome to the world. you cant choose nor can I
just vote. lets play – the cough game. P.S. It’s cocktail hour
10:53 PM
[Unitedrich] Enoch8 hello my friend, thanks for your thought provoking
perspective
10:53 PM [Gibbs427] and what do you say going to default will do
to the Chinese
10:53 PM [mrrich] so you’re thinking that a default might be
part of an economic strategy?
11:04 PM [Enoch8] Gibbs427 : My bet is
this….. and take this to the bank: if the rate comes out any higher than the
$3plus range, they are goona reboot the Fed
11:05 PM [Gibbs427] do you think
getting rid of the fed is good or bad?

11:16 PM [Enoch8] Who asked a bit
ago about a few cents and to ramp it up?
11:16 PM [jimpickles] Enoch8
me
11:16 PM [Enoch8] That was a good question and I have another question to
fire back at that.
11:16 PM [Gibbs427] RVdinar4MyFamily inevitable or else
they wouldn’t need the lower dewnoms & coins
11:16 PM [Enoch8] OK

11:16 PM [Enoch8] TY Jim
11:16 PM [Enoch8] My question would be
this….
11:16 PM [Enoch8] “How can they dedollarize at that low of a
rate.?”
11:17 PM [jimpickles] Enoch8 i think i said i expect it to come out
pennies to a quarter and slow growth
11:17 PM [Enoch8] Right.
11:17 PM
[Enoch8] I would never rule it out
11:17 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] at what point
are the lower denoms a MUST? 500:1 200:1? and does it make sense for then next
adjustment to the dinar to be a minor adjustment? does a small correction of say
900:1 make sense in their current sitsuation?
11:18 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] I
am not sure I covered that completely, so ask away if need me to clearifly the
question

11:18 PM [jimpickles] Enoch8 whatever valu the dinar has …it
will take whatever that valu is…so many dinar …to a dollar….starting low
seems safe for them to me for the transition..
11:18 PM [Unitedrich]
RVdinar4MyFamily excellent question I have always been in the camp that we
should not look for 3/1 but most likely 1/1
11:19 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily]
Unitedrich I agree, 1:1 makes the most sense because that is what they are using
now with our dollar
11:20 PM [Unitedrich] jimpickles or less is probably
true, that would still be a significant increase of our output on
investment
11:20 PM [jimpickles] Unitedrich without doubt….and i think it
will just be the start…
11:21 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] Unitedrich look at how
many people have already made money who invested at the beginning…even if they
came in at the 2500:1 they have still made money
11:21 PM [jimpickles] Enoch8
and i’m still thinking we have a wait ahead of us into next year..
11:21 PM
[Unitedrich] jimpickles the critical part imo, is when it does revalue, at what
point, if we have one, do we necessarily have to go all in, or wait for a period
of time
11:21 PM [jimpickles] RVdinar4MyFamily yep
11:21 PM [Enoch8] I am
pretty sure MH does not talk to P33 anymore sinse he banned her, myself and her
husband from his site in Dec, 2009.
11:22 PM [Unitedrich] RVdinar4MyFamily
correct

11:22 PM [jimpickles] Unitedrich yes …we won’t know that until
it happns i think
11:22 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] bigger question in all of this
is why would they throw away all they worked for over the last 8 years to get
from 4000:1 to the current 1170:1 by lopping?
11:23 PM [Unitedrich]
jimpickles I agree, there is nothing written in stone about a timeframe that I
have seen, merely speculation
11:23 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] beachdreaming no,
no lop, it will not happen
11:23 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] if they were going to
it would have been at the beginning, not now
11:23 PM [beachdreaming]
RVdinar4MyFamily nope..
11:24 PM [Enoch8] jimpickles : Again I would not
argue that as a possibility…. but there are also signs in the trail that might
indicate otherwise. Who knows?
11:24 PM [Enoch8] Nobody knows.
11:24 PM
[jimpickles] Unitedrich yes and all the discussion of lop seems more of not
understanding a posibility of new currency being issued without all the
zeros…no matter what happens the valu will increase as they get on their feet
internationally
11:25 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] Enoch8 we know, we just aren’t
sayin
11:25 PM [Enoch8] On that, we agree jimpickles
11:25 PM
[jimpickles] Enoch8 i am not saying it can’t happen at a dollar or more….just
will be pleasantly surprised…
11:25 PM [chuckles] hey E thanks for stopping
by
11:26 PM [Enoch8] Right.
11:26 PM [Unitedrich] jimpickles that is so
true. I think that the possibility of an increase over time is a real
possibility
11:27 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily] jimpickles the lower denoms are
absolutely necessary for the increase of the exchange rate, can do day to day
transactions without them with a increase of rate.
11:27 PM [chuckles] money
is nice, happiness is priceless
is nobody hearing what kdes dinar just
announced?
11:27 PM [Gibbs427] Lawyers, guns and money can’t get us out of
this…..
11:27 PM [kdes dinar] The international press is burning up – 3
text messages in 5 minutes – something is cooking
11:27 PM [RVdinar4MyFamily]
cannot do day to day*
11:28 PM [chuckles] but who am I kidding I just got
back form vacation so I can’t complain
11:28 PM [Gibbs427] kdes dinar the
shiite has hit the fan
11:28 PM [Unitedrich] ghost… what hit the
airwaves?
11:28 PM [jimpickles] RVdinar4MyFamily will be a time of transition
where they may have small denoms not worth anything…but i agree