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Post by Rooster on Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:31 pm

FBI agents raid 2 downtown Toledo businesses Told it's the BH Group Offices Found ON ANOTHER SITE

Again, the two places were upstairs from the restaurant, but are not connected to the business.
Around 12:30, we spotted FBI agents' vehicles. According to a source, they were inside the second-floor offices of Northhaven Development and Commercial Energy Products. We're also told the raid may have been issued by the IRS.

So far, we have nothing confirmed. As of 5:00pm Wednesday, we're still waiting to hear from the FBI.

We'll bring you details as they become available.

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Post by Rooster on Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:34 pm

Looks like the FBI and IRS did a raid on the very place where the "Dinar Guru Summit" was held last weekend!

FBI agents raid downtown Toledo business



OLEDO, Ohio (WTVG) -- FBI agents raided a business in downtown near Fifth Third Field.

The business isin the upper level of a building that borders Fifth Third Field above Frickers. Again, the place was upstairs from the restaurant, and not connected to the business.

Around 12:30, we spotted FBI agents' vehicles. According to a source, they were inside the second-floor office of Commercial Energy Products. We're also told the raid may have been issued by the IRS.

So far, we have nothing confirmed. As of 5:00pm Wednesday, we're still waiting to hear from the FBI.

We'll bring you details as they become available.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news%2Flocal&id=8274761

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And here it says the B H G roup is in that building!

IRS raids downtown Toledo business

BLADE STAFF

The IRS raided a downtown Toledo business Wednesday morning.

Craig Casserly, spokesman for the IRS criminal investigation unit, could not comment on what businesses was raided in the 19 N. St. Clair St. building because legal documents were sealed in federal court. He expected the documents would be sealed for “quite awhile.”

He said agents were there on “official business” and that he believed the IRS was the only agency at the building.

A woman who works at Fricker’s Restaurant, which is in the same building where the raid took place, said the IRS came in about 10:30 a.m. but did not know which business was raided.

The building is home to several businesses, including Fricker’s; Milewski, Smith, and Tschantz; Commercial Energy Products; The B. H. G roup, and Fracture Design.

The door to the offices was locked Wednesday evening and a special code is needed to access the elevator. There is a buzzer next to the elevator to call the different agencies, but no one answered.

The Lucas County Auditor’s Web site lists three different owners, including Right Field LLC, Lucas County Commissioners, and John M. Wilson and Arlene Singer.

http://m2.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2011/07/27/IRS-raids-downtown-Toledo-business-2.html




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Re: FBI agents raid 2 downtown Toledo businesses Told it's the BH Group Offices Found ON ANOTHER SITE

Post by Rooster on Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:36 pm

Post on Another Site about this:

They are the group that hosted the Dinar Guru Summit last weekend.

The Dinar Guru Summit was attended by Din@r D@ddy, Frank of KTF, Scooter, Brietling, Rudy C and many others.

That Frank of KTF said the meeting was secret and they were going to make an announcment today the 27th about what the summit was about.

My guess is if there is no announcment by Frank of KTF this may have been these guys who were raided.

Frank of KTF lives in Toledo and is part of that group or so he has told others.

Nope we do not know it was these guys who were raided but we do know that there was a rumor going around last week that the FBI had them under investigation and there was one person on this forum in one thread who said that he himself had reported them to the FBI for fraud.

So who knows?

But what are the odds that the very location of a group that was rumored to be under FBI investigation and also reported to have been turned in by someone to the FBI was raided and it was NOT them?


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Re: FBI agents raid 2 downtown Toledo businesses Told it's the BH Group Offices Found ON ANOTHER SITE

Post by Rooster on Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:05 pm

This was posted on another site:

Breitling: Hi all

tenmillion: hi Breitling

Breitling: How is everyone

cfast30: curious

JayP: hi breitling!

Breitling: You guys hear about the B H G roup?

tenmillion: everyone is wondering about the B H G roup

Breitling: they got a visit from the Irs this morning

cfast30: i only heard speculation

Breitling: no…. it is true

Breitling: at this point we have no clue why

Breitling: but it is shut down for now

Breitling: and going through an audit

cfast30: ya i saw it was irs related

Breitling: same thing Ali went through

Breitling: so we wait

Breitling: and see

chicosan: B H G roup, or their energy products co?

tenmillion: chico…..it was the commercial energy products business….not the investment business

Breitling: so at this point becaue they were in the same office we dont know which one or if both will be audit

Breitling: has nothing to do with the hedge fund

chicosan: ohhhh same as Ali….?

Breitling: correct chicosan

Breitling: so they just want to look at the numbers

chicosan: any sense of irs motivation?

cfast30: im invested in the dinar … those are two different entities

Breitling: make sure all is up and up reporting

Breitling: well your dinar has nothing to do with the B H G roup and tax issues

Breitling: so your safe

cfast30: right

cfast30: it sounds like a technical glitch

Breitling: so at this point because they were in the same office we dont know which one or if both will be audited

Breitling: Brad has been charged with nothing

Breitling: they want to see the books

cfast30: thats what i would think brietling

chicosan: ahhh… man. Brad has a big headache, and a nasty pr shadow now…

Breitling: lol he does

Breitling: but i am sure he will overcome

kmiller68: and the gurus will have a field day

Breitling: let them

chicosan: those agencies have rough tactics and cast a big shadow.

Breitling: let the liers and people who spin get used by doing evil unto good men

Breitling: spreading rumors and lies

Breitling: let them

kmiller68: i remember how much carp went around about ali when it wasnt true

chicosan: the onus is hard to shed, even or especially when innocent!

Breitling: very true chicosan

Breitling: but going to have to go down that road

Breitling: so lets see

Breitling: i am heading out

Breitling: talk to ya all later

tenmillion: thank you for coming in and explaining!

kmiller68: thanks breit

JayP: cya breitling.. thank you!

Breitling: i hear anything i will pass it on ok!

chicosan: cya breitling – thanks!

libertybell: ty for stopping in to give us the scoop

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Re: FBI agents raid 2 downtown Toledo businesses Told it's the BH Group Offices Found ON ANOTHER SITE

Post by Rooster on Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:28 pm

Re: Frank26.......7-28-2011

Postby Memphis » July 29th, 2011, 3:05 am • [Post 148]

I do not recommend the BHGroup currently for dinar purchase. My youngest son sent them $320 hard earned dollars this week OVERNIGHT DELIVERY and they have yet to confirm his purchase by e-mail.

My family has bought dinar from them many many times and always get confirmation e-mail promptly. Not this time. They are obviously not doing business as was widely circulated yesterday. I wonder, if or when we get the cashiers checks returned by BHGroup if Frank sells dinar in quantities of 250,000? My son is upset, disappointed, don't want anyone else to make this mistake.

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Post by Rooster on Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:29 pm

Bayshore Capital Investments and the BH Group

The internet fraud du jour is the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar. The Dinar will be revalued, it's current value is about 1,200 Dinar to the Dollar and the new Dinar will be much closer but that isn't going to mean that one of today's 25,000 Dinar notes will be worth 25,000 new Dinar. But that isn't what the Dinar hucksters are telling (selling) people. There are scammers selling current Dinar to "investors" at a vicious markup on the promise that each of the Dinar some day soon, maybe tomorrow will be worth one to three dollars each. Sorry folks, that ain't going to happen.

One particularly egregious specimen of this scam is being perpetrated by Rudolph Coenen of Bayshore Capital Investments and Bradford "Brad" Huebner, serial MLMer and owner of TheBHGroup.org. Brad uses that site to sell Xango, a few other similar deals but he also sells Iraqi Dinar. I'm sure he offers volume discounts but if all you're buying is 100,000 Dinar you'll get 588 Dinar to the Dollar (remember, fair price is closer to 1,200 dinar/dollar, this gets important soon).

So Rudolph "Rudy" Coenen, run his name through Sunbiz.org and see that his janitorial services company isn't the only one administratively closed in that list but you see times have changed for him, he's getting set to run his very own hedge fund. or at least so he says. You see, unlike all the other hucksters in the Dinar revaluation (RV) area, he's a man of vision, he sees the further horizon. He sees Iraq as THE place to invest , the next economic superpower and that's exactly what his hedge fund will do, with all you're RV profits.

My first thought was that the hedge fund is a scam. It's true that hedge funds aren't all that regulated but that doesn't mean it's open season. There are limits on how offers can be made and who those offers can be made to. Justin "Broker" Jones was a living breathing example of how to pretend that wasn't true (or how not to rather) and I thought they were doing the same thing here. But then i let it rattle around in my head a bit and changed my mind.

My second thought is that the hedge fund is a scam. It's like the movie The Producers only they're never going to even put on the show. Observe, this is their "Inception Investor Seat Allocation for Iraqi Hedge Funds I and II " that's the application form you need to fill out if you want to invest money in the fund. Please note the $750 non refundable application fee. Then I point out the following statement:

Most people will NOT be able to meet the Qualifications required by the Security and Exchange Commission until AFTER the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar. To accommodate those individuals, the inception date of the Hedge Fund will not start until 21 days after the Revaluation.


You see, after the Dinar RVs, all the people who bought Dinars from Brad will be RICH RICH RICH and qualify under investment guidelines as "Sophisticated" or "Qualified" investors and then, and only then will they form their hedge fund. Catching on yet? Please note that the minimum to invest in this fund is a cool million, no one getting their investment advice on YouTube can swing that, which is why Rudy is kind enough to give you a full 21 days, not only after the Dinar RVs but after it RVs to a minimum of parity with the US dollar.

But wait a minute, the only people on the planet who think the Iraqi Dinar will be revalued to anywhere even remotely close to parity with the dollar are shameless scam artists and the benighted victims they've bewitched. If Rudy will never have his hedge fund how is he making money?

First off, there's the $750 non refundable application fee, but it doesn't end there. False scarcity is a near universal sales tactic, "act now before we run out" and Rudy's hedge fund is no different. It seems the nasty old SEC will only let him have 500 investors in his fund and he only has two funds so that's only 1,000 spots available. Brad chimes in to warn it's really only 490 spots per fund because they're saving some for "institutional investors." But with the overwhelming response this opportunity is getting they can not and will not promise that just because you sent your check for $750 you will be assured of a spot in the fund. I'll let them explain it, from the link above:

Due to the overwhelming response for this initial offering, the only fair way to allocate Seat Positions for the Iraqi Hedge Fund, LP I and II is to base it on the total amount of Iraqi Dinars purchased DIRECTLY from The BH Group up until this subscription is closed.


So the people who will get a spot in the hedge fund that will never exist will be the people who A: Hand over $750 and B: of all the people who handed over their $750, buy more Dinar at near twice it's value from Bradford Huebner. But again, the Dinar will never be revalued to parity with the dollar so Rudolph Coenen's Iraqi hedge fund will never happen. But Brad and Rudy will keep all the non refundable application fees and all the Dinar sales are final. That is a sick, if almost a slick con game.


http://www.realscam.com/f12/bayshore-capital-investments-bh-group-651/

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Re: FBI agents raid 2 downtown Toledo businesses Told it's the BH Group Offices Found ON ANOTHER SITE

Post by Rooster on Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:32 pm

IRS raids building in Downtown Toledo

by Kevin Kistner
Posted: 07.27.2011 at 2:42 PM
Updated: 07.28.2011 at 9:50 AM



IRS agents on Wednesday raided a building on North Saint Clair Street in Downtown Toledo.
/ Courtesy photo

TOLEDO -- IRS agents on Wednesday raided a building on North Saint Clair Street in Downtown Toledo. Shortly before noon, agent's from the IRS' Criminal Investigation Division, clad in bulletproof vests, descended upon 19 S. St Clair St. and entered the building.

The building houses Frickers Restaurant, North Haven Development Group, Commercial Energy Products, Savage and Associates and Success Marketing Group.

The agents would not tell WNWO News which business it is investigating. They said the documents are sealed in Federal Court.

An IRS spokesman confirmed Thursday that the investigation was not a tax seizure and was criminal in nature. He added that the warrant and all documents related to the case remained under seal.

Frickers Restaurant continued to operate as agents went about their business and the manager informed WNWO that the restaurant was not a target of the investigation.

WNWO was advised by Luke Nachtrab, owner of North Haven Development, that North Haven was no longer at that address and that they were not a target of the investigation.

Ari Siegel, listed as president of Commercial Energy Products on the company's website, contacted WNWO to state that neither he nor his company was the target of the investigation.

When asked if he knew who owned or operated Success Marketing Group, he stated that that person was being done a "grave injustice," and had retained counsel. The owner of Success Marketing Group plans to sue the IRS, Mr. Siegel said.

When asked who owned Success Marketing Group, Mr. Siegel claimed he did not know.

We will let you know if any new information breaks.

If you were downtown during the raid we want to hear from you. Tell us what you saw and heard. Post your comments below.

http://www.toledoonthemove.com/news/story.aspx?id=645020

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Post by JonlyBonly on Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:24 pm

* Dinar Daddy: My Take on What Happened to the BH Group & More…
July 30th, 2011 04:48 pm · Posted in CHATS & POSTS (Iraqi Dinar Info), TIDBITS (Dinar Daddy Info)

All,

It has come to my attention there has been considerable speculation surrounding both WHY the BH Group was raided by the Feds and WHAT happened at the “Dinar Summit” that I attended for a day before heading to California to meet my wife for personal reasons. I’m posting this to help people understand and relax regarding their investment in the Iraqi Dinar, NOT to add any grief to what Brad Heubner, his family, and his employees are going through.

First off, please understand the raid of the BH Group facilities and Brad Heubner’s homes are not remotely connected to one another other than he was at both. That thought/speculation is laughable! One of the more deplorable sites is enjoying their speculations surrounding that ridiculous thought. In fact, it’s no different than the way they also over-think this investment and overshoot the “mark” in trying to predict what is happening with the Dinar.

As far as The BH Group goes, the raid had EVERYTHING to do with their Hedge Fund that they charged people $750 to reserve their spots in and that they publicly solicited business for. Those two actions are apparently illegal. From what I understand, the raid had NOTHING to do with their selling of Dinar, but everything to do with their Fund. I do NOT know anything more than that so please don’t ask me to elaborate on it as it would only be speculation by me, if this isn’t already.

As far as the “Dinar Summit” goes that I attended that Brad Heubner hosted… it was nothing major… TRUST ME! It was organized by Brad Heubner to introduce their new website he had been talking about for quite some time. I sat in a room for about 6 hours while they introduced us to their new concept asking us to promote it. That’s ALL IT WAS! LOL! We did NOT strike any “deals”. We did NOT discuss any “intel”. We did NOT come together because we had some super secret working relationship going on or because we were working on some conspiratorial monopoly on pumping dinars. LOL! Some of the MOST CONSERVATIVE sharers of information among all ‘gurus’ online were in attendance! It was simply a meeting among those who they trusted to invite because we ARE careful and we have a solid reputation regardless of what a few LOUD posters say who like to stir up controversy. They did NOT want to invite the super pumpers and site owners they didn’t trust. So, there weren’t many who were invited.

Anyway, the Dinar Summit was no big deal. The Dinar Summit has NO CONNECTION whatsoever with the raid that occurred other than there were two there who were named in the warrant who were involved with the Hedge Fund. You know who they are. The raid wasn’t because The BH Group was selling counterfeit dinar, or handing their dinar business in some shady way, or not fulfilling orders for their customers.

Also, you need to allow the legal process to follow due course. Brad Heubner was NOT arrested. He is someone who does have a good reputation in the Toledo, OH area. Just because they’ve gone through a horrible event imposed on them by the US Government doesn’t mean they are guilty. Please be respectful of them and their horrible, humiliating, and devastating situation. Please stop piling on and adding to anti-productive discussion. Please focus on why you are here… to learn more about your purchase of DINAR, and the possibility of it going up in value some day.

Go Kindness… Go Awareness… Go Truth… Go Dinar! Dinar Daddy

http://theiraqidinar.com/2011/07/30/dinar-daddy-my-take-on-what-happened-to-the-bh-group-more/

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