mailman17 chat 6/7/11 TAKEN FROM ANOTHER SITE

mailman17 chat 6/7/11 TAKEN FROM ANOTHER SITE

mailman17 says to (07:23:51):
AND YES, ALLAWIS LAST STATEMENT TELLS ME HE IS WILLING TO GIVE WAY IN ORDER FOR PROGRAMS TO ACTUALLY START AND BENRFIT THE PEOPLE
BUT WHATS INTERESTING ABOUT HIS STATEMENT IS
THE VERY LAST SENTENCE
WILL ALLAWI CONCEDE HIS POSITION, IN LIEU OF HIS GUY GETTING THE DEFENSE MINISTER
MAYBE
DOING THAT ASSURES NO POWER STRUGGLE TO MALIKI
KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
THE ERBIL AGREEMENT MAY JUST TAKE OFF.....MINUS ALLAWIS POSITION
AND ALTHOUGH THAT MUST BE KILLING ALLAWI, HE KNOWS THAT IS WHAT HAS TO BE DONE FOR THE COUNTRY, AND....SHABS TO PULL THE TRIGGTER
I SEE EVEN MORE CONTRACTS BEING SIGNED
NO MORE NEWS ON THAT SHELL DEAL
SO YES...I STILL THINK THIS WILL COME DOWN WAY BEFORE THOSE FUNDS ARE TRANSFERRED TO THE 2 ACCOUNTS SET UP IN NEW YORK AND UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE US
NOW....THAT DFI MONEY WAS UN PROTECTED
AND AS LONG AS SANCTIONS ARE IN PLACE, IT SHOULD STILL BE THERE

mailman's neighbor says to (07:31:14):
what happens if the sanctions are not removed? Why do we care about those funds if they are still protected by the US

mailman17 says to (07:31:18):
BUT AS OF THE 30TH IT WONT
mailman's neighbor says to (07:31:21):
Will it all really matter?

mailman17 says to (07:31:23):
THAT TELLS ME WHAT?

mailman17 says to (07:31:54):
NEIGHBOR...I JUST CANT SEE THE UN RELEASING THE MONEY TO IRAQ WITHOUT IT
REMEMBER..IT IS U.S. PROTECTED, BUT IRAQ WILL HAVE CONTROLS WITH THEIR GUIDANCE

mailman's neighbor says to (07:32:35):
can the world be litigous against it?

mailman17 says to (07:32:36):
AND THAT CANT HAPPEN WITHOUT 7 BEING FULLY LIFTED
AND THAT CANT HAPPEN WITHOUT A FULLY FORMED GOVT AND A TRADEABLE CURRENCY
NO THEY CANNOT\
WHY?
IF...

mailman's neighbor says to (07:33:22):
so it HAS to happen?
what if it does NOT?

mailman17 says to (07:33:46):
IRAQS BECOMES A FULLY SOBVERIEGN NATION, LIKE EVRY OTHER NATION, YOU CANNOT BE SUED...YES?

mailman's neighbor says to (07:33:56):
why?

mailman's neighbor says to (07:34:03):
The us has been sued

mailman17 says to (07:34:04):
JUST CANT...

mailman17 says to (07:34:19):
U.S. CANNOT BE SUED BY OTHER COUNTRIES
INDIVIDUALS..MAYBE...NOT SURE

mailman's neighbor says to (07:34:44):
no, biut provate entities can sue the US

mailman17 says to (07:34:58):
BUT THE NON PARIS CLUB ARE NOT IN THAT CATEGORY
AND ONE OF THE 2 ACCOUNTS IS SET UP FOR THAT
KINDA LIKE A JUST IN CASE CLAUSE
THE TRANSFER OF WEALTH WILL BE ENORMOUS
LITTLE LAWSUITS WONT MEAN SQUAT
NOT TO MENTION...IRAQ COULD DRAG THEM OUT FOR DECADES

mailman's neighbor says to (07:36:48):
MM it is like a twig or a fag of twigs, if they combine then they will make a huge differnce

mailman17 says to (07:37:25):
I DONT SEE IT HAPPENING...IF THERE WERE LAWSUITS ALREADY THERE, WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THEM

russell says to (07:37:37):
so mailman you think june is are month

mailman17 says to (07:37:43):
THE MAIN THING IRAQ HAD TO WORRY ABOUT WAS PARIS AND NON-PARIS DRBT
DEBT
I DO RUSSELL
THINK ABOUT IT...
MALIKI HAD TO TODAY
ALL OF A SUDDEN...ALLAWI COMES OUT WITH THIS STATMENT
COINCIDENCE?

mailman's neighbor says to (07:39:09):
yeah, but he has said this in the past

mailman's neighbor says to (07:39:15):
Im in, Im out

mailman17 says to (07:39:17):
ALL PART OF THE PLAN...IMO
I BELIEVE HE IS JUST IN THIS ONE

Mountainman says to (07:39:41):
Maliki 100 days was just a stall and an opportunity to throw more of his opponents under the bus.. and he is doing it... lol

mailman's neighbor says to (07:39:43):
i dont think allawi did this to help him, what is in it for him?

mailman17 says to (07:39:50):
YES HE DID MM
THE PEOPLE
THATS WHY ALLAWI DID IT

Dinar Mark says to (07:40:09):
What plan? They have and we have heard of so many plans!!!!

mailman17 says to (07:40:19):
PLAN # 221

mailman17 says to (07:40:22):
LOL
THE RV HAS BEEN LAID OUT...AND DECEPTION IS THE BIGGEST PART

glk says to (07:41:04):
Allawi wants to see the country prosper in spite of Maliki ! Allawi is for the people !

mailman17 says to (07:41:11):
CORRECT GLK
THINGS HAD TO DONE AND SHABS HAD TO WAIT FOR THE NEW CURRENCY AND SYSTEMS TO BE IN PLACE...NOT INLY IN IRAQ BUT WORLDWIDE

Dinar Mark says to (07:41:59):
So, Allawi has basically thrown in the provbial towel????

mailman17 says to (07:42:04):
AND YOU WILL NOT SEE THIS ON THE FOREX FIRST

glk says to (07:42:06):
Allawi can be a patient man too, Maliki will hang himself eventually, but the country has to move forward NOW !

mailman17 says to (07:42:13):
THE CBI WILL COME OUT FIRST

mailman17 says to (07:42:49):
GLK...I THINK THATS ALLAWIS THINKING...GIVE MALIKI THIS MINOR VICTORY, AND EVENTUALLY, HE WILL HANG HIMSELF
DONT YOU HAVE WORK TO GOT TO?

Dinar Mark says to (07:43:24):
Will this give Maliki a majority gov.????

mailman17 says to (07:44:46):
DINAR MARK...NO REALLY...WHAT IT DOES IS GIVES MALIKI NO OPPOSITION AS FAR AS POWER SHARING
BUT
HE WONT BE AS POWERFUL AS HE WANTS, DUE TO THE ERBIL AGREEMENT MINUS ALLAWIS POSITION
BUT STILL THE MAN IN CHARGE...PER SE'
FOR NOW
YOU STILL SHOULD HAVE ALLAWIS GUY AS DEFENSE NINISTER AND ALLAWIS GUY AS THE POP
THATS WHAT I WAS TOLD...IN THAT 3 WAY WITH POLAR...THAT THE PEOPLE ARE BEING FORCED TO USE THE SMALLER DENOMS AND ARE PISSED

glk says to (07:46:59):
Allawi was promised the Defense right !

mailman17 says to (07:47:24):
GLK..YES...SECURITY IS A MUST
GLK..ALLAWI WAS PROMISED THE POSITION WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM ALMOST AS MUCH POWER AS MALIKI, BUT I THINK HE WILL WAIVE IT,
NOT MONETARY SUITS

neo says to (07:48:33):
Iraq on the other hand is acting as a contracting body and under the terms of Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (1976) Thats the rub for them

mailman17 says to (07:48:47):
CORRECT NEO...TY AGAIN
NEIGHBOR...GO TO WORK AND STOP TRYING TO CAUSE TROUBLE...8-)

glk says to (07:49:43):
But we don't want Maliki in charge of all the security positions do we ?

mailman17 says to (07:49:54):
HE WONT BE
THE POSITIONS SHOULD BE EQUALLY DISBURSED AS TO KEEP HIM IN SOME KIND OF CHECK

Dinar Mark says to (07:53:01):
What , in your opinion, MM will it take for Shabs to pull the trigger, or will it take anything at all???

mailman17 says to (07:53:08):
SECURITY
AND THAT MEANS THE REMAINING MINISTERS APPOINTED

tmac096 says to (07:54:11):
do you think that will happen anytime soon or will the Mp's need to be in session?

mailman17 says to (07:54:56):
TMAC..I DO...FOR PARLIMENT TO BE ON A 30 DAY VACATION...THEY SEEM TO BE IN SESSION...YES?
AND ALL THIS NEEDS IS A EMERGENCY SESSION CALLED FOR ONE DAY
THEN
BAM
THIS IS MY HONEST OPINION

mailman's neighbor says to (07:55:54):
when will this emergency session be called?

mailman17 says to (07:56:05):
ESPECIALLY IF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED

tmac096 says to (07:56:08):
great point, so Maliki gets what he wants, Allawi steps back behind the curtain and they vote on the three stooges and shabbi flips the rv switch and we are happy.

mailman17 says to (07:56:11):
DONT KNOW NEIGHBOR
ANY DAY
BUT AS I SAID...I TRULY THINK IT WILL BE BEFORE THE EOM

mailman's neighbor says to (07:57:15):
no, just kidding, mm I think you are right, just need something to happen, and maybe having allawi stepping back take a huge weight off of Maliki's shoulders

mailman17 says to (07:57:25):
IT DOES
BUT
A JAGMO THAT WILL HAVE LIMITED POWERS AS A PRIME MINISTER AS PARLIMENT AND THE MINISTERS WILL BE CORRECTLY EVENED OUT
IMO
AND LETS FACE IT...WHEN THE RV GOES DOWN, THIS CAN CHANGE THE WAY A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
AT HOW MANY WELLS WERE DUG...AND CAPPED
THE NATURAL GAS LINE DEALS MADE

alphonse43 says to (09:32:13):
hundreds

mailman17 says to (09:32:14):
NEWS OF THE PAST...WILL COME BACK TO BE FRUITFUL
BUT FORGOTTEN TILL TODAY...LOL
WE DIDNT FORGET
TIMING IS EVERYTHING...AND IRAQS TIMETABLE IS KNOWN ONLY TO THEM...BE WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA...JUST BY FOLLOWING WHAT SCRAPS THEY LEAVE US AS TIDBITS
WE ARE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN GOOD AT PUTING THIS DAMN PUZZLE TOGETHER...JUST A COUPLE MORE PIECES...AND