mailman17 4/18/2011 7:25 pm

mailman17 says to (19:23:16):
FOR THE LIFE OF ME I CANNOT FIND THAT ARTICLE ABOUT THE MOF GOING TO THE US TO SEEK PROTECTION FROM ASSETS…NOW, I SAY ASSETS CAUSE THATS THE WORSDING USED IN THE ARTICLE
I KNOW MY WIFE READ IT AND GUARDIAN READ IT…BUT APPARENTLY IT HAS BEEN PULLED
BUT
CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
WHAT EXACTLY IS PUT IN THE DFI?
ANYONE HOME?

pballone says to (19:24:44):
Isn’t that the money from the sale of oil

mailman17 says to (19:24:47):
YES
ANYTHING ELSE?

pballone says to (19:25:17):
Med said the first protection was frozen assets, then DFI assets

mailman17 says to (19:25:19):
ANY OTHER REVENUE PUT IN THERE?

pillsbury says to (19:25:21):
I think that is all
pballone says to (19:25:32):
Not that I know of, why?

mailman17 says to (19:25:50):
THE FROZEN ASSETS I AM TALKING ABOUT ARE ABROAD, AND IN 44 COUNTRIES

pballone says to (19:25:57):
YES

mailman17 says to (19:26:08):
AND STILL ARE IN THOSE COUNTRIES
WHY DO I SAY THAT?
ANYONE?

GAU-8 says to (19:26:55):
iraqi gold and foreign investment capital

mailman17 says to (19:26:57):
CURRENTLY..THE DFI IS LISTED AT WHAT?….60 BIL
GAU…THANK YOU…FOREIGN INVESTMENT CAPITAL
NOT FROZEN ASSETS

pillsbury says to (19:27:39):
mm17 wasnt the dfi over a trillion I thought

mailman17 says to (19:27:52):
BECAUS IF THEY WERE, THE DFI WOULD BE 15 TIMES WHAT IS IS LISTED AT RIGHT NOW
HANG ON PHAONE…I AM GETTING TO A POINT
BBR

God’sgurl1 says to (19:29:54):

flowergirl says to (19:29:57):
I think this is it MM!7 raqi-funds

mailman17 says to (19:31:49):
OK
HANG ON PHONE
NOW..I DID READ THE ARTICLE SAYING THE MOF WAS ASKING FOR PROTECTION OF MONEY ABROAD

flowergirl says to (19:35:38):

think this is it MM17

mailman17 says to (19:35:54):
THAT IMO DOESNT INCLUDE FOREIGN INVESTMENT
I TRULY BELIEVE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FROZEN ASSETS ABROAD IN THE 44 COUNTRIES

flowergirl says to (19:36:45):
I wondered about that too
38cabo says to (19:36:51):
it makes sense

mailman17 says to (19:36:53):
THE ONTHER THING I READ AND SO DID GUARDIAN WAS THE EXPIRATION DATE ON THIS BEING MAY 5TH
NOT JUNE LIKE THE DFI
I THINK THEY LET THE CAT OUT A LITTLE EARLY ON THIS ONE
NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR US?

DRKHRSE says to (19:37:35):
Pressure on Iraq to RV SOON

mailman17 says to (19:37:41):
IF THEY INDEED ARE SEEKING PROTECTION FOR THAT AMOUNT AS WELL AS THE DFI

402raptor says to (19:37:50):
by the 4th

mailman17 says to (19:37:56):
THEN IT WOULD APPEAR THE US AND UN/IMF NOW HOLD THE ACE

DRKHRSE says to (19:38:02):
to move to ending Chap VII by then
SBM says to (19:38:05):
So does that mean they need to RV soon?

mailman17 says to (19:38:07):
402..DID YOU SEE THAT ARTICLE TOO?

402raptor says to (19:38:14):
yes sir

mailman17 says to (19:38:24):
THANK GOD…THOUGH I WAS GOING CRAZY’
LOL
WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VERY GOOD
NOW

mailman’s neighbor says to (19:38:56):
May 4th

mailman17 says to (19:38:58):
CHAP 7 WILL HAVE TO BE LIFTED FOR THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE FUNDS
SCREW THE DFI
PEANUTS
DOES ANYONE RECALL IN THE VERY BEGINNING…A FEW YEARS AGO OF ME TRYING TO BEAT THIS FROZEN ASSET THING INTO NAYSAYERS
I DID
LOL

402raptor says to (19:40:11):
thats what keep me goin
mailman’s neighbor says to (19:40:12):
yep

mailman17 says to (19:40:25):
AND AS OF 2007…THEY STOPPED LISTING THE COUNTRIES THAT HAD SADDAMS MONEY AT 14

mailman’s neighbor says to (19:40:26):
you told me everyday on the lanai

mailman17 says to (19:40:30):
THERE ARE 44 TOTAL
DOES ANYONE EVER REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT THOSE ASSETS?
IN ANY ARTICLE…ANYWHERE?
EVER?
NO..YOU DID NOT

mailman’s neighbor says to (19:41:18):
yeah, about two years ago

mailman17 says to (19:41:20):
WHY?

Big says to (19:41:21):
Kept really quiet

mailman17 says to (19:41:27):
SUPER QUIET
THEY DID NOT WANT THAT NUMER IN ASSETS OUT…WHY?

402raptor says to (19:41:50):
not in articals but this site

mailman17 says to (19:42:08):
402..YES…IN THIS SITE…FROM ME…LOL
THE ESTIMATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR FUND IS AROUND 700-900 BIULLION

SBM says to (19:42:52):
wow
busman says to (19:42:53):
lot of $
pballone says to (19:42:55):
don’t we have their gold?
perez says to (19:42:56):
According to the report, Iraq is apprehensive that commercial creditors who were not
involved in the settlement offers put forward since 2004 by the Government may seize
Iraqi funds and assets abroad, once immunity for the Development Fund has been lifted. A future Council resolution concerning the immunity of that Fund should, therefore, include a paragraph to the effect that Iraq will not be liable for such claims after June 2011.

mailman17 says to (19:43:01):
I BELIEVE IRAQS TOTAL DEBT WASNT NEAR HALF OF THAT
RIGHT PEREZ…THATS THE DFI
NOT THE MYSTERIOUS FROZEN ASSETS
DIFFERENT NUT

glk says to (19:44:04):
speculation on RV amont ?
perez says to (19:44:07):
ahhhh yes

mailman17 says to (19:44:11):
IF IRAQ HAD ENOUGH IN THOSE FUNDS TO MORE THAN PAY OFF THE PARIS CLUB…WHY DIDNT THEY?
THAT STILL WOULD OF LEFT THEM WITH AROUND 500 BIL
GLK..CLOSE
IRAQ NEEDED THAT FOR A 1-1

pillsbury says to (19:44:49):
so they can come out with a higher RV
402raptor says to (19:44:52):
the plan to rv

mailman17 says to (19:45:06):
NO, I PERSONALLY THINK THEY WILL STILL COME OUT ON PAR
BUT HERES WHAT I THINK
M2

WildfireI says to (19:45:39):
Is the proposed RV in the parliament ready to be voted on?

mailman17 says to (19:45:40):
ACCORDING TO SOURCES…IRAQ SUPOSEDLY HAS COLLECT OR HAS IN HAND 70%
YES?
THATS WHAT THEY SAY ANYWAY
LIQUIDITY
IN HOUSE

WildfireI says to (19:46:05):
Thank you MM17

mailman17 says to (19:46:16):
I BELIEVE SO WILD

WildfireI says to (19:46:29):
Thank you MM17

mailman17 says to (19:46:37):
NOW…I BELIEVE THEY HAVE JUST ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF 3 ZEROED NOTES IN IRAQ

busman says to (19:47:07):
70% of 33 tril. in country is that close mm17

402raptor says to (19:47:23):
remember the post the banks have 90% of the dinar and it should have been the other way around ,banks holding only 10%

mailman17 says to (19:47:35):
I ALSO THINK THAT AN AGREEMENT WAS MADE BETWEEN THE IMF/ AND COUNTRIES CONCERNED, ESPECIALLY THOISE WITH EITHER OIL DEALS NOW OR PENDING AND INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE

402raptor says to (19:47:42):
maybe why they have 70%

mailman17 says to (19:47:45):
402..YES
COUNTRIES ARE NOT A CONCERN
BUT
THE ESTIMATE FOR DINAR OUTSIDE OF COUNTRIES HANDS IS 1 TRIL
JUST ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT GIVE OR TAKE IN THE FROZEN ASSET PROGRAM THEY DO NOT WHANT US TO FIND OUT ABOUT
THEY WILL GIVE US ANY NEWS WE WANT ON THE DFI
BUT NOT ONE WORD FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS ON ASSETS ABROAD
THAT 1 TRILLION ALONG WITH FRACTION BANKING AND A 10% RESERVE QUOTA EASILY PUTS IRAQ BACKING AN RV AT AT LEAST A 1-1
THAT IS THE MAIN REASON YOU WILL NO WILL NOT WILL NOT SEEA LOP
THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED
AND NOW, I THINK THE US AND THE UN/IMF WILL TELL IRAQ…EITHER GET MALIKI TO GET THE MNINISTER IN, AND A GOVT FORMED, OR EVEN BETTER A VOTE OF NO COFIDENCE
OR YOU CAN KISS BOTH PROTECTIONS GOOD BYE
THAT WHAT I WOULD DO…AND THE UN.US/IMF ARE TIRED OF THE DELAYS
AND THATS WHY THE GOI TOLD SHABS AND SALEH TO GET A MECHANISM AND LAW TO THEM ASAP

busman says to (19:52:53):
mm, is there total m2 33tril. and they got 23 back in liquidy

mailman17 says to (19:52:56):
FOR THEM TO GET INTO P[ARLIMENT
‘BUS..THANKS…THE M2 HAS NEVER WORRIED ME BEFORE

busman says to (19:53:42):
i know but u watch it very close

mailman17 says to (19:53:53):
AND VERY QUICKLY AS MAY 5TH AND JUNE ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER

Ranjoesgirl says to (19:54:13):
Ibadi: Iraqi assets in danger when international protection lifted next May

mailman17 says to (19:54:30):
AND THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO SAW THE SAME ARTICLE I DID…THOUGHT FOR A MINUTE MY SANITY WAS FINALLY GONE
LOL

starlord6d6d says to (19:54:42):
so could they pop the RV before they go in this coming holiday? or would they continue to wait?
Ranjoesgirl says to (19:54:47):
I think that is it MM17

mailman17 says to (19:55:22):
HERES THE GOOD PART….WHY NOW? WHY LET THE WORLD KNOW ABOUT THES HUGE ASSETS?…CAUSE YOU CANT JUST PULL THEM OUT OF THIN AIR AT THE LAST MINUTE…LOL
STAR..ALSO REMEMBER…PARLIMENT GETS THINGS DONE MORE DURING HOLIDAYS THAN WHILE IN REGULAR SESSION
DONT BE SURPRISED…
THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THIS PEEPS…TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH
OKAY…GONNA LOOK AROUND…SEE YA LATER…STAY FOCUSED AND WATCH THE NEWS
LATER
JUST A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING FOR YOU GUYS…

perez says to (20:21:54):
1. Frozen Iraqi Assets in U.S. to be Used in Postwar Iraq 20 March 2003 2. Bush Broadens Order to Confiscate Assets of Former Iraqi Regime 29 August 2003
Says assets will be transferred to Development Fund for Iraq
those are the funds frozen since gulf war

starlord6d6d says to (20:24:17):
and they could be very large,

perez says to (20:24:32):

ArlingtonAZ says to (20:25:27):
“the Iraqi money is safe now, although the trusteeship ends next June,…hmmm

mailman17 says to (20:29:38):
PEREZ, THEY MAY BE TRANSFERRED, BUT HAVENT YET, AND IF SANCTIONS ARE TOTTALY GONE, NO NEED TO TRANSFER, IRAQ SHOULD HAVE FULL CONTROL OF BOT MONETARY ENTITIES

perez says to (20:30:32):
sorry was digging through notepad!

mailman17 says to (20:30:32):
THEY ALS DO NOT LIST THE TOTAL AND STOPPED WITH THE 14TH COUNTRY, APPARENTLY, WE AND ANYONE ELSE WERE NOT PRIVY TO THIS AMONT
TY PEREZ

perez says to (20:30:56):
try that one for more older info

mailman17 says to (20:31:12):
GOOD JOB

perez says to (20:31:22):
feel really bad putting old stuff out
yw

mailman17 says to (20:33:03):
PEREZ, THAT 20 30 BILLION WAS JUST WHAT THEY FOUND IN THE U.S AND SINCE THEN HAVE FOUND MORE, NOT EVEN COUNTING THE REMAINING 43 COUNTRIES LEFT….LOL’THAT SNEAKY LITTLE SADDAM WAS SO SNEAKY AFTER ALL…LOL

perez says to (20:35:31):
this tells just how sneaky they were
explains how they used oil vouchers to bribe people to break un sanctions
ty MM17 and ds.. hope it helps or at least is informative… sorry have to run (})

stoeser30 says to (20:39:59):
thanks perez for all the info

perez says to (20:40:12):
yw

mailman17 says to (20:43:33):
TY PEREZ
WHEN BUSH HAD ASSETS FROZEN TOTALLING BETWEEN 20-30 bil initially, THEY DIDNT SAY WHAT THEY FOUND AFTER THAT, AND SADDAM WAS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO PUT ALL HIS EGGS IN ONE BASKET, ESPECIALLY THE US..HENCE THE 43 REMAINING COUNTRIES….FOOD FOR THOUGHT
JUST HOW MUCH COULD HE HAVE STOLEN IN 30 YEARS?
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